[J-core] Sadly, the linuxconf.au talk isn't happening.

Joh-Tob Schäg johtobsch at gmail.com
Fri Jan 3 13:44:35 UTC 2020

Hello Rob,

thank you for the explanation. I would feel the same way.
There is really no reason to do a video of our talk and do a skype for
questions with the attendants of this conference. I looked at the
pricing structure for attendees. They charge people in the "hobbyists"
tier around 400 $US and even their student pricing is around the
regular admissions price for 36C3. (36C3 is a day shorter but it
still) I do not think the visitors are as grass roots as it is made
out to be.

However i am a bit bummed that Jeff replaced a week of community
outreach with a week of engineering.
A work week for outreach with the existing community would have a huge
I am sure the community here would welcome your presentation video(s)
instead. Also a Skype/Jitsi/... meetup or Q&A would certainly be
appreciated by the J-Core community. I think.

Johann-Tobias Schäg

[1] Back on the envelope calculation: a work week(=40h)/(80+20
subscribers on the mailing list) = 24 minutes per person. 8h of calls
every day is nonsense and i am sure not everyone on the mailing list
wants to be this involved.

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 07:09, Rob Landley <rob at landley.net> wrote:
> Several thousand dollars worth of international travel funding for Jeff and me
> went through without a hitch but the follow-up request for $1000 in conference
> tickets triggered "They want you to pay _them_ to speak? A negative honorarium?
> No, that's a scam, this can't be a real conference" and the travel funding went
> away again.
> Rather than spend political capital on forcing "money people who report to
> investors" to change their minds, Jeff got the travel money applied to expanding
> an engineering project instead of going back into the travel budget, rescheduled
> the week of travel/presentation time into a week of engineering time, and called
> it good. (We offered to send a video of our talk and do a skype for questions,
> but haven't heard back.)
> Rob
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